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Main conclusion - 2; premise for main conlusion - 3, 6; subconclusion - 6; premise for sub conclusion - 1, 4, 5.

did u reword the first part of the sentence?

What is your format Ash?
I really am starting to think this is a hit and miss game

So I have: Main concl = 1, premises for main concl = 2, 4, 5b and 6; sub concl = 2 (premise for this = 3) and 5 b (premise = 5a)
It's very complicated and yes, I did reword...I seem to want to do that all the time so I can get down to the meat of the argument which is probably my problem - I'm taking these text-book argument much to seriously!!

u have to start with the BECAUSE...as it is a premise indicator

kylie i can't see 6 linked with 1

If I include conclusion idicators look at it like this:

I think we musn't panic though. When we did assignment 1 just now I realised that actually more than half the questions were straightforward definition ones, so even if we mess up on argument analysys we'll probably be OK. And who knows - we might even get the analysis right in the exam.

Psychiatric records, including even the identification of a person as a patient, must be protected with extreme care. In therefore confidentiality is essential to psychiatric treatment.
This does not make much sense. Now look at this:

agree, i don't think we have time to answer 50Qs- 2mins each

Yes, you're right Kylie. Actually 6 fits in better with 5a (because...) as a premise for 5b (the psychiatrist must be circumspect)

Psychiatric records, including even the identification of a person as a patient, must be protected with extreme care. Therefore the welfare of the patient must be a continuing consideration.
Fits much better.

SO it says (because of the sensitive and private nature of the info) (5a), and BECAUSE (the welfare of the patient must be a continuing consideration) (6) (he/she must be circumspect....)(5b)

You could be right Ash.

and following that: statement 1?

But again, I am hoping that the options in MCQ will give us some guidance.

TRUE - we hopefully have that in our favour!

I don't think I am ready, but I also don't think that I am about to know all the answers by heart. I don't think I ever will :(

yep

why does it say that " there is no correct answer to this question..." p7 tut103

this is def not an esay module for me

I don't know.

what are the steps in an argument evaluation?

One thing that has driven me made with this module, is if you are going to ask a question, at least give a decent answer.

understand the meaning
identify the thesis
locate the reasons that support it
determine whether reasons offered ins support of the conc
are acceptable

Amazingly - even though we didn't agree 100% on the analysis i feel a bit better about it. Got a chance to try out some mental wrangling and to think about conclusions and subconclusions a bit harder than I have prviously. Thanks so much guys. I need to go now. Still have GED to run through tonight - writing both tomorrow. All the best. See you in the post-exam dissection!

best of luck with both Ash

Good luck for both your exams.

i've also got to go, it's late

is tomorrow the last paper for all of u?

YES! Hallelujah!

I think we applied the steps in argumentative evaluation, so I am happy that we actually suceeded.

kylie and Alwyn, thanks it was good. g luck

Yes Yes Yes

good luck

chat tomorrow after exams
nite nite

hope it goes well for all of u

I am also off and will speak to you all tomorrow. Good night, sleep tight, and don't let the bed bugs bite.

nite nite

Good Luck\

am off to bed to